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Thursday 4pm

11/24/2016

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​by Jim Agpalza
Jim says, "After a night of disappointment, Mike Pence goes home to get comfortable and sits down in front of the mirror to have a good cry."
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Françoise Mouly & Nadja Spiegelman link
11/28/2016 11:41:01 pm

This image has raised negative comments:

"@3Liza so you're distributing this at the Women's March in January?"

"‏@filamena there's nothing more embarrassing than being femme, I guess?"

"@waitworry that seems more than a little transphobic"

"@Giania peachy. if u need specifics: it's deeply ugly to position the bigoted as closeted, implying bigotry is self-loathing."

"‏@rowdycatte This is abhorrent. The person who submitted it is abhorrent, and it's abhorrent to publish."

"@itsSupercar here's an idea: edit this transphobic crap out so its not part of the printed result"



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Françoise Mouly & Nadja Spiegelman link
11/28/2016 11:49:04 pm

TO ALL THOSE OFFENDED:

We share some of your reservations about this image: namely, that men in dresses are not inherently funny, even if they are homophobic men. Nevertheless we showed it and encourage discussion about it (and about the power of humor and images in general.) Through debate we will build coalitions.

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Zoë link
11/30/2016 11:27:37 am

Seems to me no one here knows the difference between cross dresser and transgender. I think this is a great art statement. And people using the term transphobic need to learn the difference between transgender and cross dresser, there is a big difference.

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M Harding
11/29/2016 12:00:46 am

This piece seeks to ridicule and humiliate Pence by depicting him as a trans woman. The entire imapct of the piece is predicated on the viewpoint that a trans woman is a ridiculous and humiliating type of person to be.

It's a case of tunnel vision. The artist is so laser-focused on mocking Pence that he grabs haphazardly onto any petty, cruel stereotype he can get his hands on, throwing women under the bus in the process.

There's a litany of real things to criticize about Pence. Heinous words and heinous legislation to hold him to account for. Baselessly conflating him with an already-vulnerable, already-mocked group in an effort to embarrass him is completely nonsensical and careless.

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Nadja Spiegelman & Francoise Mouly
11/29/2016 12:11:45 am

Well, we agree with your point that society perceives men dressing as women as "humiliating" only because of the perception that womanhood itself is demeaning. (though we'd argue Pence is more of a cross-dresser here than a transwoman..?)

But while men in dresses isn't in and of itself a good gag, there is a hypocrisy worth dealing with in Pence -- who is on the record as homophobic and anti-women's rights -- taking advantage of the Broadway theater (a notoriously liberal zone for artists and workers of all persuasions).

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Philip James
11/30/2016 02:57:56 am

"The priciples of true art is not to portray, but to evoke" I think this is a brilliant piece. Look again

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K. Fischer
11/30/2016 11:25:55 am

Why is nobody talking about Pence's little polaroid of a brown guy in a spiked collar, looking bloodied and humiliated? It should be obvious that this is not a mere sight gag.

If your first and last critical thought about this image was, "There's a dude in a dress and dudes in dresses are supposed to be funny to homophobes," then you have failed.

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